Saigon and Joe Budden Name Top Five Dead or Alive

Recently, sohh.com, put up a list from both Joe budden and saigon's top 5 dead or alive emcee's and i decided to put it up. There are some surprises...just read.

Joe Buddens pick
Ice Cube is a pioneer. I grew up [on] Ice Cube as well as N.W.A. They were the trend for gangster rap along with Ice-T. He made incredible records and he was just great. He made great music over such a long period of time. 
Saigon's pick
I put Grand Puba in the Top 5 list because he's a trend-setter. He's set a lot of trends for the fashion, Tommy Hilfiger. He's got classic records, he's got conscious records, he's got party records. He helped bring Mary J. Blige out with What's The 411? and all of that. He was in a legendary group, went solo and had a successful career. He's just one of the most influential guys out there.
Joe Budden's pick
I think Andre 3000's creative mind is unparalleled. He's one of the most lyrical guys to ever pick up a microphone. What else can I say? He's one of hip-hop's pioneers. 
Saigon's pick
I put Busta Rhymes in here as well because he transcends so many generations. He's got classic verses and classic albums. He kind of revolutionized the music video game with how he would do videos and putting all those characters in it. Missy Elliott's whole look came from Busta. What she was doing in her videos, it was inspired by Busta. I think he's just one of the best lyricists, one of the best performers, so he's in there.
Joe Budden's pick
Black Thought's just a monster. He's also a hip-hop pioneer. Black Thought is an artist who's been able to just rock with a live band for seventeen years or however long he's been doing it. It's amazing to me. 
Saigon's pick
LL Cool J is another one. He's a guy who transcends mad generations. He was a teenager with some of the illest battles. He also shut down a lot of careers; that's a good thing, it's a part of hip-hop. He was one of the first artists that was killing careers as far as on the battle scene. He had the ladies, he had the hardcore hip-hop fans loving him with "I'm Bad" and "Mama Said Knock You Out." You just can't keep him down. You know he's always going to come with a hot record to kill it. He's a dope artist and he had a h*ll of a run. You gotta give him his props. Over 20 years in this game is long. Most artists' careers don't last three albums.
Joe budden's pick
Common's "I Used To Love H.E.R." When I first heard that record, it was just mind-blowing, ground-breaking to me. It was a record that always stayed with me. Definitely one of my Top 5 favorite hip-hop records of all-time. He's a lyrical monster. 
Saigon's pick
First of all, with Ice Cube, he was one of the first writers of the whole N.W.A. He was writing all of Eazy-E's sh*t, he was writing his own sh*t, writing Dr. Dre's sh*t. And he was young, like 17-years-old putting it down like that. And then he left a very successful group in their prime and went ahead and had a very successful solo career. Aside from the acting, he put out solid albums. That Amerikkka's Most Wanted is a classic. Most artists can't get one classic off, this dude has four or five classic records. He pretty much brought gangster rap to the forefront along with N.W.A. but he was the lead vocalist in that group. So you gotta give his props.
Joe Budden's pick
[Jada]Kiss is just a beast. He's just a beast and that's point, blank, period. He gets in my Top 5 list without a doubt. 
Saigon's pick
People don't give Fat Joe his respect. He might not be the most lyrical but for him to keep creating himself for 15 years, being relevant, that's not an easy thing to do. He's always been able to have a song working and a look. He did bring out Big Pun and he did a lot of big things.

The surprise? Fat joe. I didn't believe anyone would pick fat joe- i am happy though that he is getting some respect, a lot of people overlook the great works he puts together in his album, and just judge by the commercial singles they hear on radio. I have been a fan of his since i heard LOYALTY, and i went back and bought the albums before that, and have not missed buying any of his albums since then. This brother started rapping in 1991, that is 20 straight years ago...20 long years ago, and for him to still be heard on radio is an achievement on its on. I have always respected joe cos i know he does it for the love.

The other surprise is that Jay-z is missing from saigon's list. I read an article on allhiphop.com where he talked about that jay was his ultimate number one best rapper, so i am surprised...

Other than this two surprises, i know there are a lot of surprising names that are up in their lists.